He's a stud over there and he hits for power, hits for average -- everything,” Gorman said. More Nolan Gorman Pages at Baseball Reference. No, he wasn’t. Those performances should help put Gorman’s value as a 2b’man in context. And if he hits, he’ll play. Nolan Gorman asked for permission to report early (and was granted it by #Cardinals) so he could get some work with Jose Oquendo, Stubby Clapp at second base.Early reviews are positive, per Mozeliak. Gorman possesses enough of the right kinds of skills to make a move to second at least worth trying. The skipper called the prospect following the acquisition of Arenado to take his temperature. That translated into an attractive 3.3 fWAR. I believe he will still be here at some point this season if his defense is as natural as Willie McGee seems to think it is. In ’03, Kent was average or a little worse defensively. “… Simple stuff. Nolan Gorman asked for permission to report early (and was granted it by #Cardinals) so he could get some work with Jose Oquendo, Stubby Clapp at second base. The left-handed-hitting 20-year-old has been hitting balls on the screws through 17 exhibition at-bats, his manager said, though he holds just two hits, one being a double, and an RBI. There isn’t much about this early season that’s likely to stick around, but three encouraging stats just might have staying power. Matt Carpenter: Carpenter also arrived as a third baseman, but need and his own versatility motivated the Cards to be flexible with him defensively. Gorman got some of the first boxes checked off -- he turned a double play started by Arenado, caught a popup in the dirt and played a handful of innings at what the club tried to create as close to full-speed game action as possible for starter Jack Flaherty. The greater Cardinals blogging community has some really smart prospect analysts who do the hard labor of binging minor league baseball, scouting exciting young prospects, and sharing their thoughts with us. It's hard to just text through the phone and really dive into a lot of things, but more so just having a lot of time at second base, you don't have to rush anything, and making sure on double plays you're getting that first out and protecting yourself from that runner coming. He thinks some of those traits could help him play 2b: Kyle Reis: “Well, my initial thought is that if Mike Moustakas can do it then Gorman should be able to as well. Before I even dig into their responses, I want to say a huge thank you to all of these guys for taking the time to give me their honest opinions. In 2016, as a sophomore at Sandra Day O'Connor High School, he batted .490 with 11 home runs and 49 RBIs, and in 2017, as a junior, he batted .361 with 11 home runs and 34 RBIs. Madrigal has one of the best hit tools in the game as well as plus speed. The next year UZR rated him higher, he was about the same on offense and was a 4.2 fWAR player. That July, he won in the MLB High School Home Run Derby in Miami, Florida. He has a strong arm. Next up for Gorman this spring could be taking reps at second in Grapefruit League action, though the Cards are being patient with him there. While the Cardinals are working on getting him comfortable at second base (in light of He’s hitting .200/.238/.300. Instead, he sought permission from the front office to head down to Jupiter early and start working out at the keystone position with Jose Oquendo. That being said, second is less demanding in terms of range and pure arm strength, so it’s at least a possibility. Nolan Gorman has been putting in extra work at second base this spring. Expect Gorman to be average or worse at second. Moustakas had his most 2b innings in ’19 and provided one of his better career fWARs – 2.8 with just a 114 wRC+. The double was Gorman’s second of the spring. Let’s look a little deeper at Kent. He’s hitting .200/.238/.300. He was average or worse defensively, provided a 146 wRC+ and an MVP-caliber 7.2 fWAR. Gorman attended Sandra Day O'Connor High School in Phoenix, Arizona. But his focus is expediting his path to the big leagues -- “I've got gloves for everything,” he said -- whether it’s at second, or via even trials in the outfield. Nolan Gorman is an exciting young prospect for the Cardinals, his power potential can’t be overlooked. photo: Nolan Gorman and Dylan Carlson. The point? JUPITER, Fla. — Nolan Gorman came to Florida early, before the official opening of spring training, so he could get in … Second Base Prospect 2021 Impact. Read their material. Gorman is working out at second base. If you don’t know something, ask those who do know. Twitter came through with several valuable, though brief reactions. Not great… but also not terrible, especially considering his age and his lack of experience at the position. With Gorman not even being listed as taking infield practice today I see it unlikely he will play at second base. I think he can do it. Then it came to actually playing the position. Just simple things, little things that made him a great player.”. He would probably need to play it in a specific way, probably playing deeper than most in order to augment his range and then rely on his quick release and stronger arm than most second base types to make up for playing so deep. Nolan Gorman is likely blocked by Nolan Arenado for the foreseeable future. Gorman, the top minor-league prospect in the Cardinals organization, played second base in a five-inning simulated game on a back field in the Cardinals’ complex. Gorman, a natural third baseman who's acclimating to second base in the wake of the offseason acquisition of Nolan Arenado, played at the keystone … That means that what has always been true for Gorman remains true regardless of where he plays on the field: he has to hit! Within hours of the Cardinals acquiring Nolan Arenado, radically recasting their offseason and likely rewriting his future, Nolan Gorman shared an all-call on social media to find recently retired former … The Reds did the same thing the next season. What a funny guy with a great sense of humor! The next subject in our Top 50 St. Louis Cardinals Prospects for 2021 series is the organization’s best minor league prospects, sorted by position. Nolan Gorman has hit 32 home runs over 188 games in the Minor Leagues. 2013 accounts for 1100 of those 2b innings, and that year, at age 27, Carpenter was -2/.3 DRS/UZR. If he exceeds that level of offensive performance, then his defensive deficiencies at second will likely become irrelevant. It was worth it early in Matt Carpenter’s career, and it was certainly worth it for Jeff Kent’s entire MLB tenure, which is the guy I would put forward as both the best-case scenario for that kind of tradeoff and also a pretty damned good physical comp for Nolan himself.”, (More relevant material from the Red Baron: A.E.’s Draft write-up from 2018; A.E.’s 2020 Top Prospects List). We have advanced defensive stats from 2002-2008, his age 34-40 seasons. Top Prospect Nolan Gorman. And also the excellent @mdthompFWFB from Prospects Live: He’s a good athlete. “He's really, really honest and sincere about saying, ‘You know what, I'll be fine. Nolan Gorman wants to set the record straight: He was not really kidding. The only thing impressing the Cardinals more than Gorman’s bat -- his calling card -- and his capability of learning second is his attitude. “You got to be able to adjust, and I'm not up there with any sort of name in the big leagues, so I want to help the team win any way I can. It really won’t take that much offensive production for Gorman to provide starter-caliber production (2.0+ fWAR.) Now with the gloves pic.twitter.com/sM0mqiSjWN. Let’s take each in turn. Could Nolan Gorman actually learn to play acceptable defense at 2b? That occurred on Tuesday, when the natural third baseman played second in a simulated game for the first time this spring, lining up alongside Arenado on the opposite side of the infield. It was the first step in making the transition from third to second. The rumor is he likes the infield better than the outfield and that’s why [he’s] at second base instead of the outfield anyway”. On his most recent version of “Prospects After Dark” (I’m sure you can find it through your preferred Podcast service), he lauded Gorman for his athleticism and arm strength in a potential move to the outfield. The elder Nolan -- Arenado -- is an eight-time Gold Glover at third, where Gorman, the 19th overall Draft pick in 2018, initially mapped out his career. The 20-year-old Gorman spent time at spring camp with longtime infield coach Jose Oquendo and first base coach Stubby Clapp at second base. Even with a poor defensive reputation, Kent wasn’t that far from average at the position. Nick Madrigal is poised to make the biggest impact among second basemen in 2021. Most of the damage, though, was done in his last four seasons, when he was in his upper 30’s. “I'm a baseball guy, so I study everything,” Gorman said. He’s now putting in work to be the St. Louis Cardinals’ second baseman. With Arenado likely occupying the hot corner for most of the next decade, the common belief was that Gorman should just hang out at third in the minors and, when his bat showed he was ready for the majors, the club would surely be able to find a place for him in their lineup. Maybe you noticed some common points in their reactions. Jeff Kent: Kent played over 17,000 innings in his career at 2b. Has good footwork at third. The Official Site of Major League Baseball. Fortunately, I learned long ago that you (me) don’t have to be an expert on everything. There’s some uncertainty of where he fits long term with Nolan Arenado now patrolling third base for the Cardinals. He’s always been willing to answer questions for me. That could be third or first in the unfortunate event of an injury to Arenado or Goldschmidt, the outfield (where the Cardinals might have needs), or even the DH if it comes to stay in 2022. Nolan Gorman to get reps at second base this spring. I'll figure out another path. If Moustakas is a fair enough defensive comp, then Gorman would just have to provide around a 100 wRC+ to do that. I’ve always believed that a prospect should stay at the hardest position on the defensive spectrum that they can handle while in the minors regardless of the roster situation at the major league level. Kent, on the other hand, has the reputation of being a bad defender but was probably still performing at a more-than-acceptable level there considering his bat until his mid-30s. Arenado is signed through 2027 (with opt-outs after ’21 and ’22) and Gorman is still trying to make the club, though likely not until the later portion of this year, if at all, before 2022. Both Arenado and Gorman were early arrivals to camp in February, golf partners and now, the Cardinals hope, infield stalwarts. At the end, all Top 50 members are shown by position groupings in an organizational prospect depth chart. Good hands, strong arm. And that's the only thing I've got to really understand now, where to be and when to be there.”. More Nolan Gorman Pages at Baseball Reference. Soon, though, Arenado zipping a throw to Gorman to turn two could become a nightly occurrence. “Just a good guy to have in your pocket.”, Cardinals’ acquisition of third baseman Nolan Arenado. Gorman likely will begin this season at Double A Springfield and almost certainly will see time at both third and second, and perhaps even in the outfield, this year — Derrick S. Goold (@dgoold) February 18, 2021 “You know, actions do speak louder than words.”. Spread over 10 seasons’ worth of data, that points toward Moustakas as an average defender at third. When the Cardinals acquired Nolan Arenado, it immediately brought into question the future of another Nolan – Nolan Gorman, one of the top third base prospects in the minors. “It was never really a joke,” Gorman said Tuesday. Get advice on your decision to trade Nolan Gorman for Johan Camargo. He moves well enough. Nolan Gorman page at the Bullpen Wiki; Minor Lg Stats; Minors Game Logs & Splits. I would prefer him in the outfield over second base, and I’d actually love to see him play some shortstop in spring, but I get why that’s where he would stick. I can’t wait to see if he gets time there at games during Spring Training! The Cardinals are set with Tommy Edman and Matt Carpenter at second in 2021. Kyle Reis is one of my favorite prospect analysts over at Birds on the Black. Gorman has picked Arenado's brain and worked especially closely with the organization’s infield mastermind, José Oquendo. 'Wherever they tell me to go I’m going to go play' | Prospect Nolan Gorman adapting to second base in Cardinals camp. Let’s start internally. Gorman, a natural third baseman who's acclimating to second base in the wake of the offseason acquisition of Nolan Arenado, played at the keystone for the first time in a simulated game Tuesday and helped turn a double play, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports. The St. Louis Cardinals are sitting on several great prospects in their farm system that they hope will eventually make their major league debuts. St. Louis Cardinals at Philadelphia Phillies — A game thread for April 17, 2021, TA 4/17/21: Kim Activated to Make First Start, Whitley Optioned, A Better Approach to Hard Hit Percentage, and Early Cardinal Results, Hard contact is nice, but it’s even better when it’s accompanied by fewer strikeouts, as the Cardinals have shown early this year, Sloppy Second Inning Sinks Cardinals in Philly, St. Louis Cardinals at Philadelphia Phillies - A game thread for April 16, 2021. He will be the White Sox everyday second baseman in a stacked lineup. 3 prospect did in fact connect with the former Red Sox MVP second baseman over text. Follow them on Twitter. If you are interested at all in minor league development, they are all worth following. Basically, though, what you’re talking about is a situation where you sacrifice defense for the bat, and Gorman’s bat could absolutely be special enough to make that tradeoff worth it. And even if he needs more resources, the Cardinals are bursting with them. Cardinals INF prospect Nolan Gorman will get reps at second base this spring. ksdk.com - Rob Rains • 24d. Our own resident prospect guru, A.E. Gorman, the top minor-league prospect in the Cardinals organization, played second base in a five-inning simulated game on a back field in the Cardinals’ complex. His defensive profile is somewhat mixed: -5 DRS and +15.3 UZR career. Both players were significantly older than Nolan Gorman when they transitioned to second. From ’02-’04, Kent had a -5/+7.9 DRS/UZR. At 20-years-old there’s still plenty of time to develop his game. Although he was not tested extensively, he did turn a double play and catch a popup. https://www.mlb.com/news/nolan-gorman-working-hard-on-move-second-base Overall Moose and Carpenter were a little worse at second than they were at third, but the difference is not all that extreme. Turning a double play is something new, hopefully he can get acclimated to that. Gorman was slotted as the Cardinals' third baseman of the future... and then Nolan Arenado arrived. Let’s focus on three: This was a subtle but important point that everyone agreed on. If nothing else, this will make for a great conversation this spring. If he can’t reach those offensive levels, then all of this becomes moot anyway. He's got eight Gold Gloves. Let’s hear from some prospect experts on whether he can stick there. What I’ll do here is present their comments with minimal commentary, then we’ll dig into some common trends and some stats. Nolan Gorman technically only had two hits Tuesday, but he was busier on the basepaths than that may imply. Ask the Experts: Nolan Gorman and Second Base, Cards’ Bombs Overcome Lack of Kim’s Innings and Cards Beat Phils 9-4. Average probably is his upside based on these comps, but that doesn’t seem as far out of reach as one might imagine. Tuesday was one of the first trials. Minor League Batting Game Logs & Splits (s.2008) 2018; 2019; More. He has 603 IPs at 2b with a -3/-.1 DRS/UZR overall at the position. Gorman, a natural third baseman who's acclimating to second base in the wake of the offseason acquisition of Nolan Arenado, played at the keystone for the first time in a simulated game Tuesday and helped turn a double play, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports. He committed to play college baseball at the University of Arizona in August 2015. “But I think the biggest thing is just knowing cuts and relays and [runners on] first and third defenses and different plays that we have going on. Here are the results: 3b overall: 5333 IP, +8 DRS, -14.4 UZR2b overall: 1688.2 IP, -13 DRS, -7.9 UZR. There are certainly few better players for Gorman to learn from than Pedroia, a four-time Gold Glover at second and two-time World Series champion who called it a career in February. There really was no way for me to answer that question without considerable research that I was ill-equipped to do on short notice. JUPITER, Fla. — Nolan Gorman came to Florida early, before the official opening of spring training, so he could get in some extra work with Jose Oquendo about the ins and … He was expected to be the third baseman of the future for the St. Louis Cardinals, but after acquiring Nolan Arenado from the Colorado Rockies, the team actively sought ways to incorporate Gorman into the lineup. In the field, prospect Nolan Gorman got his first game-action at second base of spring, and the Cardinals are considering him for innings in the field during a Grapefruit League game. Schafer: “Gorman was a shortstop in high school, but his frame and lack of foot speed pretty much always pointed to a corner infield spot being a better choice than an up-the-middle position. Nolan Gorman has been putting in extra work at second base this spring. I thought it might be interesting to do a quick survey of some of the prospect analysts that I routinely follow to get their thoughts on Gorman and a possible move to 2b. He has the athleticism and work ethic. “Egoless” was the word manager Mike Shildt used when asked about Gorman’s approach earlier this spring. Instead, the Cardinals are monitoring -- and pleased with -- how he can evolve with the glove, specifically, given his strong arm. 2. So I feel confident that he has the athleticism and the drive to be as good as he possibly can there. Nolan Gorman, the Cardinals’ top position player prospect and a third baseman, has spent several days this past week working on moving to second base. Rank Player Position Team Level eta Age Height / Weight Bats Throws; 1 Hopefully, it goes well and Gorman can continue the experiment into the minor league season. In 2013, Carpenter had his best overall season. Fantasy Impact. Click on their links. While the analysts think Gorman should try this, none of them believe that his skillset and body-type will allow him to be better than average at the position. Schafer, provided a lengthy write up for us: A.E. He moves well enough for there to be no issue in becoming competent enough, and that means another nice bat in the lineup. In my opinion, I just don’t see much downside here. If Gorman lands anywhere in the range of these players, he’s probably going to be playable at the position. He had a good but not elite 120 wRC+. Just two Arizona guys, cutting it up, talking shop about second base. Three players were cited as comparables: Mike Moustakas, Matt Carpenter, and Jeff Kent. Range was something of a concern, but with shifting you can play him at second. There’s no lack of confidence in the bat, though, as Gorman has hit at any level he’s reached. Immediately after the trade, Gorman joked that he would have to start working out at 2b! Miami Marlins' Miguel Rojas throws for a fifth inning double play as St. Louis Cardinals' Nolan Gorman slides into second base on Monday, Feb. 24,... Minor League Baseball: Peoria Chiefs Nolan Gorman in action, fielding vs Bowling Green Hot Rods at Dozer Park. In part thanks to his Instagram story following the Cardinals’ acquisition of third baseman Nolan Arenado -- “Does anyone know where Dustin Pedroia is and is he available for lessons on how to play second base?” Gorman wrote -- the Cardinals’ No. St. Louis Cardinals: Nolan Gorman putting in extra work at second base redbirdrants.com - Matt Graves • 54d If there are two things that the St. Louis Cardinals seem to prioritize above most other things, it’s athleticism and character. Fans hear about “the … In 2019, at the age of 30, Moose was shifted to 2b by the Brewers. We have a couple of them right here on Viva El Birdos! … If [second base] is going to help the big squad win, that's what I'm willing to do, and just put in extra work and make sure I'm dialed in there.”. And I will figure it out, second base as part of that path, then let's get to work,’” Shildt recalled on Feb. 21. If he consistently lands in the the 120+ wRC+ range, Gorman would probably make a few All-Star teams as a second baseman all while playing Jeff Kent/Matt Carpenter 2b defense. “I mean, you've got Arenado coming in at third base. Gorman has still been taking some reps at third this spring, appearing there in Grapefruit League games at times in relief of Arenado and more than holding his own. Here’s what VEB contributor Trevor Hooth had to say: Sorry for the late response here.I don’t think he’ll have any issue becoming a second baseman. Those traits that make him into an average or better third base prospect defensively should help him survive across the diamond. Mike Moustakas: Moose has been primarily a third baseman in the majors. And Gorman has no shortage of resources -- a former MVP in Pedroia included -- to help improve upon what it was: a starting point. Ha! I think most analysts would agree that a 120’ish wRC+ is within Gorman’s hitting abilities, though not a sure thing. Later in the month he played in the Under Armour All-America Baseball Gameand won their home run derby. He was expected to be the third baseman of the future for the St. Louis Cardinals, but … When the Cardinals acquired Nolan Arenado, it immediately brought into question the future of another Nolan – Nolan Gorman, one of the top third base prospects in the minors. That’s in the range of average and remarkably close to Moustakas. We offer recommendations from 35+ fantasy baseball experts! I just think when he was drafted out of high school everyone thought that he would have to move to first but he worked hard enough that he looked like a sure-fire third baseman on an average to potentially above level for a couple of years at least in 2019. I… “I'm glad he was letting me reach out to him,” Gorman said. Early reviews are positive, per Mozeliak. So now that it seems Gorman is transitioning to the Outfield what is the likelihood we see him this season? In those 7 seasons, Kent had a -52 DRS and a -30.6 UZR. When the Cardinals acquired Nolan Arenado, they put up a road block to another Nolan in their system, Nolan Gorman.Gorman reacted by immediately thinking about moving to second base:. Nolan Gorman. Players can always walk down the spectrum if that’s what it takes to get them PAs once they reach the show. 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